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© gYiKválasz erre | adatok | e-mail - 2005-10-07 11:30:04 (39)
mi volt az amit idén végig tudtál hallgatni?
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© gYiKválasz erre | adatok | e-mail - 2005-10-07 11:28:16 (38)
amugy hogy témánál legyünk betettem ezt az új propagandit, és szerintem egész jó.

© gYiKválasz erre | adatok | e-mail - 2005-10-07 11:27:38 (37)
persze hogy az lenne a lényeg, de ehhez a zene a közvetítő eszköz, az fogja meg az embert. volt már olyan hogy egy zenekart úgy ismertél meg hogy valaki mondta hogy jók a szövegeik?
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© csabeekaválasz erre | adatok | e-mail - 2005-10-07 11:25:19 (36)
nem is azt mondtam hogy meg kell mentenie. Csak szerintem a közlendő a lényeg egy punk-rock vagy bármilyen más underground bandánál...
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© gYiKválasz erre | adatok | e-mail - 2005-10-07 11:23:36 (35)
nem fogok szar zenét hallgatni jó szöveggel mikor olyan zenét is hallgathatok ami teccik, és még a szövege is jó. uganúgy pl. van jó szöveg aminek semmi értelme mégis jól hangzik, illetve megfogja az embert de ez pl anyanyelven jellemző inkább. az egy dolog hogy számít a szöveg, de azért nem minden esetben ez a mérvadó.
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© localheroválasz erre | adatok | e-mail - 2005-10-07 11:20:31 (34)
hülyeség, mert egy szar zenét nem minden esetben ment meg egy jó szöveg...

© csabeekaválasz erre | adatok | e-mail - 2005-10-07 11:14:45 (33)
gyík öcsém, ez punk-rock...
szerintem a szöveg sokkal fontosabb. a zene csak a körítés mellé, vagyis eredeti esetben. erre példát manapság már nem nagyon lehet találni.
de ez csak az én véleményem.
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© gYiKválasz erre | adatok | e-mail - 2005-10-07 10:40:25 (32)
akkor mért nem olvasol verseket zenehallgatás helyett?
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© Danválasz erre | adatok | e-mail - 2005-10-07 10:38:08 (31)
nem gondolom
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© gYiKválasz erre | adatok | e-mail - 2005-10-07 09:56:58 (30)
azért ez a szöveg számít duma elég szar, nem gondolod?
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© Danválasz erre | adatok | e-mail - 2005-10-07 09:54:30 (29)
Elso hallgatasra nekem nincs ilyen negativ velemenyem. Kulonben is a szoveg szamit.

© localheroválasz erre | adatok | e-mail - 2005-10-07 09:37:36 (28)
gyenge lett nagyon...
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© matyipotterválasz erre | adatok | e-mail - 2005-10-06 16:39:39 (27)
nemtom, hát nem ezt vártam, de tegnap este csak épphogy végig tudtam rajta futni, én adok neki mégegy esélyt...

© nailválasz erre | adatok | e-mail - 2005-10-06 13:20:43 (26)
én végig se birtam hallgatni...valahol féluton kikapcsoltam.

© sick boyválasz erre | adatok | e-mail - 2005-10-06 10:21:54 (25)
kinek, mi a véleménye az új albumról?...számomra óriási csalódás, már eleve az énekkel komoly gondok vannak

© neszeZoliválasz erre | adatok | e-mail - 2005-09-28 22:35:37 (24)
Gőcs ne légy pöcs:D

© robitválasz erre | adatok | e-mail - 2005-09-19 15:11:23 (23)
végre egy szar vélemény rólunk yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!! még még!!!!
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© Sz&#336;r-FacEválasz erre | adatok | e-mail - 2005-09-17 15:35:32 (22)
...huhh márcsak 1 honap és a paplan alatt rejtegethetjük az uj Prop. albumot...de valahol azt olvastam h Okt 1-töl már meg lehet rendelni...de lehet h csak haluztam..

© Sz&#336;r-FacEválasz erre | adatok | e-mail - 2005-09-17 15:29:46 (21)
...még nem:)...de Anyám ebéd közben már megemlítette h nézzek le a fiuk probájára...de sajnos a csilis tákko betett a gyomromnak... inkább otthon maradtam és a kedvenc David Hasselhoff posteremmel fajtalankodam...A Tibeti Hegyi Jakkk Tenyésztők Utikalauzában olvastam,hogy ez jot tesz a bőrnek,valamint serkenti a vérkeringést...

© Pokolgepválasz erre | adatok | e-mail - 2005-09-16 19:02:34 (20)
Nagyonoltod Te itten a Neszet! Nem jatszol veletlenul benne? ;-)
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© Sz&#336;r-FacEválasz erre | adatok | e-mail - 2005-09-16 18:09:15 (19)
....Sztem inkább,érleljék és csiszolják a zenekarok a számaikat,mintsem fél vagy egyévenként kiadjanak egy masszává jáccott riffekböl (...mint a Nesze:) és klisés szövegekböl állo
tucatalbumot...(...mint a Nesze:)legyen inkább kevesebb szám egy albumon ,de az betonozza le az arcomat...
...a propagandhi meg soha nem siette el az abumok kiadását...(mint a Nesze:)

© sick boyválasz erre | adatok | e-mail - 2005-09-16 16:52:45 (18)
na ja...a minőséghez idő kell aranyszabály náluk áll...sok bandának viszont inkább árt, ha sokat pöcsölnek
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© Pokolgepválasz erre | adatok | e-mail - 2005-09-16 16:28:28 (17)
Asszem az idei Propagandhi ismet oriasi lesz. Nem hiaba dolgoznak ezek eveket egy lemezen.

© Sz&#336;r-FacEválasz erre | adatok | e-mail - 2005-09-15 22:09:02 (16)
Itt a szöveg és a sztori:

G7 Welcoming Committee Records has posted a track with lyrics from the upcoming Propagandhi full length Potemkin City Limits. The song "Die Jugend Marschiert" can be downloaded from AmericasArmy.ca now. The website spoofs that of America's Army, a video game released by the U.S. Army to provide "young Americans with a virtual web-based environment in which they can explore Army careers." The person mentioned in the song is Colonel Casey Wardynski, the director of the U.S. Army's Office of Economic and Manpower Analysis (OEMA) and project director for the video game. The now-popular game was devised in 1999 as a way to improve the Army's recruiting effort and exposure to children.


Die Jugend Marschiert

"Welcome to the offices of Economic and Manpower Analyses here at our historic and sprawling West Point Academy campus! My name is Mindy! It is my distinct pleasure to introduce you to a loving father of three (and a champion of the sanctioned use of armed force in pursuit of policy objectives). Ladies and gentlemen, put your hands together for the project director of our newest recruitment strategy; our mission to staff future combat systems through current technologies. Without any further ado, I give to you Colonel Casey Wardynski!"

(warm applause)

"Thank you! Let me begin with some sentimental appeals to our national myths; assorted clichés coined by the state; the ideological shorthand meant to sweep your private doubts [away] of this virtual training course. This portal; this Trojan Horse that you living idiots paid for and actually rolled into your own kids’ rooms."

(stunned silence)

"Oops, did I just say that out loud? Oh, well, it’s not like it’s something new. It’s just the logical extension of the decades of bilge water that you’ve let us pump into your homes. The pink noise that hums away in the background while you run the gauntlet we force on you everyday. The billowing candy floss that helps to soften the blow. Deep down you’ve always known that your children already belong to us, so why don’t you cut the outraged parent routine, shut your mouth and get back in your seat. Your children already belong to us. What are you? You will pass on. And they won’t know a fucking thing but this 'community,' this real life Ender’s Game. Forget what you think you know."

© Sz&#336;r-FacEválasz erre | adatok | e-mail - 2005-09-15 22:03:25 (15)
...Asszem hererepesztően kemény lesz az uj album...Először 120 C fokosra
hevíti majd a makkom börfelületét,majd megsemmísitő csapást mér az elcsökevényesedett idegpályáimra...Csekkojátok le az uj albumrol letölthető
számot,mert zseniális...Kicsit fura elsöre,de leoszt...

© Danválasz erre | adatok | e-mail - 2005-09-05 14:58:37 (14)
http://www.punknews.org/article.php?sid=13655&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

© Danválasz erre | adatok | e-mail - 2005-08-31 09:13:01 (13)
http://www.punknews.org/article.php?sid=13633&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

© Placekválasz erre | adatok | e-mail - 2004-11-10 17:46:53 (12)
Nem ska ellenes, de ha elolvasod a szám szövegét akkor kiderül, hogy mit akarnak mondani. Nem a skaval van bajuk, hanen azzal, hogy manapság sokan csak a pénz miatt vágnak bele mivel a ska egyre népszerűbb és kezdi elveszteni az igazi jelentőségét ha lehet ilyet mondani

Na itt a szövege el lehet olvasni

ska sucks. ska revival isn't cool you stupid fuck. the bands are only in it for the bucks. and if you don't believe me you're a schmuck. but the trend will die out with any luck. yo ho. yo ho. rudy, a message to you rudy, a message to you rudy. fuck you rudy!

www.plyrics.com
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© Roccoválasz erre | adatok | e-mail - 2004-03-23 22:00:31 (11)
Let's get some clarity for starters. Look, if someone invites me over to their house for supper and i start calling their mom a fuck-faced fart-lover, it's not censorship if they ask me to stop and it's not censorship when they insist i leave when i refuse to stop.

Yes, we thought being asked to remove the incredibly short and incredibly vague allusion to George Soros (who is, for the record, a fuck-faced fart-lover...see Heather Coffins piece below) was lame, but nobody in Propagandhi ever suggested we were being censored by Mike or Fat Wreck Chords.

It just became clear that our respective perspectives on the US electoral process and the strategies that could be undertaken to effectively influence the US (and by extension, the world) political climate towards something authenically sane had reached an impasse. It became clear that our politics were incompatible with goal of the "Rock Against Bush" project, which, at least in the short term, is to get Democratic Party Leadership Nominee John Kerry elected as supreme ruler of the planet...i mean president of the united states.

That's all. Nobody censored us. Anyone who says different is tilting at wind-mills.

http://www.g7welcomingcommittee.com/propagandhi/newsmarch2004.shtml

© Roccoválasz erre | adatok | e-mail - 2004-03-21 22:27:53 (10)
PROPAGANDHI:

Remember last month when my fine feathered friend Mr. Todd Kowalski informed you that we had recorded a song for the upcoming "Rock Against Bush" comp coming out on Fat Wreck Chords? Yes, that's the one. You have an excellent memory.

Well, guess which band got booted from it because they refused to remove a pot-shot aimed at international billionaire, global financier, war-profiteer and all-around asswipe George Soros from their liner notes? No, it wasn't Good Charlotte. Good guess though. Try again.

That's right, it was us!

Next time someone comes knocking on our door hawking the virtues of joining a unified front against something, we'll be sure to ask them this: unity on whose terms? At what cost?

This message not brought to you by George Soros.


FROM FAT MIKE:

Hello everybody. Well this Propagandhi thing has gotten a little out of hand when there really is no issue. A lot of people seem to want an explanation, so here it is in detail. I asked Propagandhi to be on the Rock Against Bush comp and they agreed. They also made it clear that they didn't want to be censored and that their political views differ from ours. I said no problem and that I would be stoked to have a different viewpoint on the album (as long as it wasn't pro-Bush). So they send the song which happens to be a song off their last album, but with a different title. The lyrics are about how both political parties in the US are totally fucked and that it doesn't really matter which one wins because there will not be a significant change in the capitalist system anyway. Here they are:


Bullshit politicians. Bloated pin-dick motherfuckers. Bullshit politicians bow and curtsey to the seats of power. We'll never learn and nothing will ever change if we stay this course of followers and slaves. I can_t believe we're still content just reshuffling the same old deck of kings and queens and faux-democracies. I say we hand it back to the bullshit politicians. Free John Hinckley.
Okay, so this is really not the message that I am trying to convey because I believe that Democrats are a bit better than Republicans, and I think that Bush is fucking the world worse than anyone possibly could. But, I still want the song on the comp. So we get the liner notes from the band and at the end it says, "This message was not brought to you by George Soros". This is where the problem starts. George Soros is a Billionaire who got his money from exploiting the foreign currency exchange. He screwed a bunch of countries to make his money. It is also important to note that he is also a member of the Carlyle Group, which is a company that makes money from selling weapons. Okay, that sucks. Meanwhile he has been giving close to 500 million dollars annually to progressive causes and has founded a network of philanthropic organizations in over 50 nations throughout the planet. He is spending a good part of his fortune trying to get Bush out of office. Maybe he feels guilty or something, I don't know. The point is that he has given money not to us, but to many great organizations such as Moveon.org and America Coming Together, and these organizations help support us. I didn't want an anti-Soros message on the first Rock Against Bush comp, because I don't want to make enemies within our movement. I am trying to unite people not alienate them from each other. So I asked Chris from Propagandhi if he wouldn't mind taking that last Soros comment out of their liner notes. He said he wouldn't take anything out. I said okay, then asked if they would mind being on the Rock Against Bush vol. 2 comp instead of the first one, which will be coming out 3 months after the first one.

There were 3 reasons why I wanted them on the second one. First and most importantly, MoveOn.org is going to send a mass email to their 3 million members encouraging them to buy the comp. Letting them know that the more CDs we sell the first week, the more of an impact it will make on the music scene. If it's the number one independent record in the country, CNN and other news sources will report it. It will be a powerful message to Americans. MoveOn did this for the "Uncovered" DVD and it sold 40,000 more copies because of them. So I do not want to piss off MoveOn, not to mention that they are doing fucking amazing work. They are leading the online anti-Bush movement. Second reason; The first comp is a little Fat Wreck Chords bands heavy. There are already 8 fat bands on the comp. We had asked the Lawrence Arms to be on the second one too. They said okay. The 3rd reason was that the Propagandhi song wasn't new. It was an old song with a new title. I thought that this might piss a few people off.

So I ask Propagandhi to be on the second comp with all the lyrics intact and with the George Soros comment and everything. NO CENSORSHIP. Chris politely said no thanks. He said that the band has had cold feet about the comp from the beginning, that their politics don't mesh with ours, and that he doesn't want to be shuffled on to the 2nd comp. I was bummed, but I felt that our message of getting Bush out was more important than Propagandhi's anti-Soros message. There are no hard feelings between the band and I. Not only do I think they are the most important band in punk rock, but I feel that they are amazing people, and I am incredibly proud to put out their records.

There it is. The whole explanation. Sorry no drama, but it never was a big deal until it got all over the internet. Thanx for listening.

Sincerely,

Fat Mike



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